Roger Hernandez- to Hispanic Coordinator OR Conf in addition to Senior Pastor, Hillsboro Spanish Seventh-day Adventist Church District (OR Conf)-
CORRECTION- Jerry Russell (not Doug Hilliard) to WA Conf Treasurer from Kentucky- Tennessee Conf Associate Treasurer (not Treasurer). $20 goes to Shelley Schurch, Administrative Assistant in the WA Conf Education Department for being the first to notify us of the needed correction!
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Steve Wallace- North Pacific Union Conference is no longer able to support Steve’s Revival Seminars ministry (If you would like more information contact the NPUC)
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UPDATE 6/15/2009. For more information see the December 26, 2007 comment below. To read a copy of the Andrews Seminary Committee Response to Steve Wallace (dated December 26, 2006) click here.
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Advent Movement- Roger Hernandez, Jerry Russell, Steve Wallace
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Why is this so?…
“Steve Wallace- North Pacific Union Conference is no longer able to support Steve’s Revival Seminars ministry (If you would like more information contact the NPUC)”
Hi Charley–
Here is a letter sent by NPUC President Jere Patzer to Church Leaders on February 22, 2007 which indicates the reasons–
I have the sad duty to bring before you an ongoing situation regarding Elder Steve Wallace and Revival Seminars ministry.
The North Pacific Union Conference in the North American Division has been working with Steve over the last year and asked a committee of scholars at the Seminary to assist us. This is in keeping with the counsel of Ellen White when someone begins to advance different light than previously held by the Church. Unfortunately Steve has formulated an extreme theological position related to end times that is destructive to the marriage institution and family unity and is not supported by scripture, Ellen White, or Adventist teaching. The committee of scholars at the Seminary spent considerable time reviewing Steve’s written material and listening to Steve on these matters. Both the Seminary professors and the North Pacific Union appealed to Steve to seriously reconsider his position for the sake of his family as well as for his ministry, which has been established and functioning as a supportive ministry over the last 20 years. Recently, however, he indicated to the NPUC administration that his position has not changed and that he is prepared for the consequences as a matter of what he believes the Lord has told him to do.
Due to this development we find it necessary to inform you that the North Pacific Union Conference is no longer able to support Steve’s Revival Seminars ministry. We do, however, continue to support his wife, Melissa, in her ministry at Mountain Cleft Retreat, which is not in agreement with Steve’s theological position.
Any further questions can be directly addressed to the North Pacific Union Conference. We encourage you to continue to pray for Steve, Melissa and their family. God bless you.
Jere D. Patzer, President
North Pacific Union Conference
You might want to also read “Who Should Be Allowed To Preach In Adventist Churches” at http://npucnewsletter.wordpress.com/2007/02/28/who-should-be-allowed-to-preach-in-adventist-pulpits/
Should we not believe the Bible because God uses imperfect men. Solomon had 1000 wives. David took Bethsheba. Moses struck the rock. On and on and on. Think for yourselves! We are not the Church of Rome. How dare we tell people what seminars not to study. Listen to Steve Wallaces seminars; then be like the noble Bereans and search the scriptures to see if those things are true. Unlike some of our scholars, Steve is not afraid to humbley tackle and openly discuss all sides of an issue. His liberal use of the Scriptures and EGW are the basis for everything in his seminars and the Holy Spirit testifies to what is true.
Tim
Hi, I’m an Algerian student doing a research about the Hispanic familyin the USA. Could you please help me in finding some documents to support my thesis. I’m looking for this article Roger Hernandez “americanization takes toll on traditional hispanic family values”
I have been listening to Steve Wallaces tapes called “Glory to Glory” they seem scriptural. Should I continue listening to them?
Thank You, Yvonne
Yes!!
Yes, very inspiring, clear and to the point. Supported by scripture and Spirit of Prophecy.
Yvonne,
I have only seen the Glory To Glory series and I would STRONGLY encourage you to view the videos or continue to listen to the audio. This is a powerful series and I would only hope that Adventist institutions would teach material like this-however this type of teaching is devoid in much of Adventism today. This series is both Biblical and is in accordance with SDA beliefs. No matter what has happened since this series should not cast any shadows on what has already been presented. From Glory TO Glory is life changing!
God Bless,
Greg
Dear Yvonne,
Thank you for your concern. We recommend that you study the Bible and other materials rather than these.
Hi,
could you please give me contact to NPUC or to anyone who can provide a trustworthy inormation about te pastor Steve Wallace? He is doing the seminars in Slovakia. When I was inited to work with him a year ago I was and warned by couple of respectful people from the church not do it. I would like to know the official attitude of the conference.
Thank you very much
Monika Hornikova (for Czecho-Slovakien Union)
What did you find out?
What about trying to contact Pastor Wallace himself? “Respectful” people can be found on either side but nothing beats talking to the actual person. Information tends to get lost in the translation.
Greg
Marella,
Re: your response to Yvonne on 3/3/09…
I understand the need to be extremely cautious regarding Elder Wallace’s work – especially given the letter from the NPUC published above, but should we assume everything that Elder Wallace produced before he lost his way is suspect? I believe Jones & Waggoner eventually left the church – but EGW affirmed their work on righteousness by faith. I think we need to compare whatever we study to scripture and inspiration – which is perhaps what you were recommending?
I believed and still believe that Elder Wallace gave the clearest presentation I have ever heard on justification and sanctification at our campmeeting. I have heard many others say this.
I still listen to his tapes and videos, and would recommend them to anyone.
I have many of Stephen Wallace’s revival seminar tapes, and have really respected him. I’m so disappointed to hear that he can no longer be supported by NPUC. I can’t seem to find out what happened. Are he and Melissa divorced? This sickens me! Please tell me where to go for some details on this.
Thank you so much,
Donna Vorpagel
What if it’s the devil that’s trying to derail “the most important work ever entrusted to human beings”.
Dear Arlen,
Thank you, you are correct in your assumption that whatever we study should be compared to scripture. This was what I meant by my earlier comment.
What is the official position of the SDA church on Elder Stephen Wallace and his seminars. His organization revivalseminars.org says that his personal beliefs on end time abstence is not part of his public teaching. I have personally never been more convicted than when I attended his seminar on Christian Character Development. EGW says we should not be afraid to study subjects upon which we disagree. His study from Glory To Glory is present truth for this time and “the most important work ever entrusted to human beings”
As one who has attended the seminars in there entirety…some 5 years ago…I can say that the only reason a letter comes from the tops of anything is when there is no scriptural rebuttal from the ‘scholars’ to clearly identify or refute the accussed. I invite all to taste and see for themselves as far as THIS message is concerned. Elder Wallaces’ ministry points a self serving Laodician back to the CREATOR. Attending changed my course, my life, my understanding of the necessity to SPIRITUALLY apply CHRISTS’ principles to my literal belief.
I am not a ‘follower’ of Elder Wallace, I do not send monies, neither has he EVER encouraged any course of action toward, against, or away from this beloved church OR its end-time message.
Folk read and study for yourself, for a change. Historically we have always contended with spiritual wickedness in HIGH places. Even our SAVIOR faced the ‘scholars’ denouncement of HIS TRUTH…oh yeah same reason…JESUS’ teachings did not comply or agree with that of the ‘church’. Okay, get the point?
We each must give account for ourselves with none others to blame…why not begin by making an INFORMED CHOICE…Prove all things HOLD FAST that which is GOOD. Blessing upon those who allow the capable HOLY SPIRIT to guide you into ALL truth.
Amen!
Greg
Hi LO JO–
We’re glad that you have been blessed some years ago by some presentations from Steve Wallace.
To my knowledge there have not been serious questions about many of his presentations in the past. The concern that has been raised is about his current beliefs and practices that have negatively impacted his relationship with his family.
“Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.” Matthew 7:20.
God bless you as you search the Scriptures, walk in the light you discover and encourage others to do the same as we all prepare for the soon return of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Why would our church take his wifes side in a divorce that is not Biblical? There are some details that you do not know or you wouldn’t continue spreading this.
I have spent many hours with Steve Wallace and not quite as many with Melissa. This situation is sad and probably should not be discussed more in a public forum beyond the 6/15/2009 update in the original post above.
We are fortunate in the Seventh-day Adventist Church that church membership issues are handled by the local church in business session since the local body should know more of the personal lives and experiences of their own members. And credentials/recommendations are handled by the local conference leaders in consultation with the local union since they have been given the responsibility to protect the message, mission and unity of the larger church body.
This arrangement prevents any one person from making any of these important decisions. It allows the Biblical principle of the priesthood of all believers to function both directly and through elected representatives.
Of course each of us is free to come to our own conclusions, and is responsible to God to learn what is truth from the Scriptures, to walk in the light and to encourage others to follow our example (see The Great Controversy page 598). But we shouldn’t treat lightly the counsel of the church body and elected leaders (see Hebrews 13:7, 17).
i don’t know if all your assumptions are true. as for me, of what i’ve heard from his sermons, they are really inspiring. let me say it, if nobody talks about CHARACTER BUILDING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK EVER INTRUSTED TO HUMAN BEINGS… then who? Now the King is coming! Is your character transformed in the likeness of Christ?
As Paul rightly said, “spritual things are spritually diserned”. I belive that the holy spirit will talk to us individually to confirm if Elder Steve Wallace seminar is indeed spirit filled. Praise the Lord and His name be praised. Thank you Jesus.
I would like to ask whether Steve can still preach in North Pacific Union even though you no longer support him? Would he be free to preach if people in your church would ask him to do so?
Hello! My name is Alexander! I’m from Ukraine. I’m not good write in English, but reading better, therefore sorry for beforehand errors! Almost a year ago in my hands the seminar of Steve got “From Glory to Glory”. It is important and powerful material, for the correct understanding of many doctrines of church of SDA and formings of Jesas of similar character! Very wanted to know Steve about a fate, as if got it right at his family now not easy times… If can help in this search, I will be very thankful you! Let Lord will bless you!
Belief is individual as inspired by the Holy Spirit. I thanked God for using Elder Wallace to preach about character building. It is very striking and points you to study more on the scriptures and the inspired writings of Ellen G. White. I encouraged everyone to see and listen for themselves the message about the Truth which will transform us to have a Christ-like character with the help of the Holy Spirit. We must recognized that in minute details, Satan is trying to impart his deception upon us, so we need to study more deeply about the Truth and ask the Holy Spirit to guide us in what we believe. Praise God in everything!
I have known Steve for many years. Not on a close personal level but have met him, talked with him and have listened to probably over 100 hours of his talks. I have been greatly inspired. I have spoken to some of his co workers who knew the situation well. From what they have told me, there should be no reason not to continue to be blessed by his current series. Apparently there was a transcript of the meetings at Andrews. A friend who found them on line and he is going to send them to me. I will be very interested in hearing what it was that was so controverted. There is a difference in what I have been told by those who worked with him and what I have heard through the grape vine as pertaining to his controverted possition. When I know more, I will post. I think it is important, not to prove someone wrong, but to clear the stain so as not to undermine Steve’s minstry. I want to have a reasonable answer so others can listen with an unbiased mind. later
Ever since I can remember, Sunday was the day of worship, because Christ rose from the dead on that day in history. But the resurrection that day is not the end of the story. One of the most marvelous teachings in the Old Testament points to something else at resurrection time that would complete God’s story of redemption.
Leviticus 16 begins heaven’s teaching on how and when God would accept the sacrifices that pointed to an innocent Victim that would die in our place. This teaching took place on the Day of Atonement. The service on that day began when God told Moses to instruct Aaron how He wants to be approached in the Most Holy place where the Ark of the Covenant was stored. In verse 11 Aaron had to first sacrifice an animal for himself, he had to become acceptable to God before he could offer a sacrifice for the people.
Lev 16:11, “And Aaron shall bring the bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and shall make an atonement for himself, and for his house, and shall kill the bullock of the sin offering which is for himself.” Notice the emphasis on who this sacrifice was made for; himself, himself, himself. He goes into the Most Holy for himself and in 16:15, he repeats this action for the people. “Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that is for the people, and bring his blood within the vail, and do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat.”
The animal was sacrificed on the altar but its death was not accepted by God until the animals blood was presented to Him on the mercy seat. For years I had believed that Aaron wore the special regalia that we often see in pictures or drawings of that wonderful dress wear God commanded for the high priest. However, when he entered the Most Holy on the Day of Atonement, he dressed with different garments.
Lev 16:4, “He shall put on the holy linen coat, and he shall have the linen breeches upon his flesh, and shall be girded with a linen girdle, and with the linen mitre shall he be attired: these are holy garments; therefore shall he wash his flesh in water, and so put them on.” The clothing was referred to as “holy garments.”
The meaning is more than referring to the whiteness of the garments as representing purity. Aaron had on a pair of linen trousers then he was to rap strips of linen around his chest and around his head. The Church makes much of comparing types with antitypes and rightly so. The Old Testament is filled with pictures God gave us regarding the Messiah so that when He arrived we would recognize Him. Aaron was a type of Christ who was made our High Priest before the Father. So let’s take the type and antitype of the Day of Atonement and see what comes out of this which would have helped the believers in New Testament times recognize that Jesus was the Messiah.
In a series titled The Call of the Torah, Rabbi Elie Munk tells us what the holy garments of Aaron meant to the Jews as they observed Yom Kippur. “The words in this context remind us of the inevitable day of final judgment that each man must face. Accordingly, there is a custom for each man to wear a white garment [commonly called the kittel] during the Yom Kippur services. He is aware that this very same garment will become his shroud when death finally claims him.” Page 175 in Munk’s commentary of Leviticus.
Aaron wore a shroud. Why was this referred to as “holy garments?” Aaron must appear before God on the Day of Atonement as one who had died and must present the blood of the victim in God’s very presence as though it was his blood. The first thing we notice on the Day of Atonement is that the animal was sacrificed on the altar. The sacrifice would not be accepted until the blood was brought before God.
When Jesus died on the cross it was the Old Testament picture of the sacrifices that were sacrificed on the altar. His death was not accepted by the Father at this point. He was being treated as a criminal by His Father this is why He cried out, “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?” If we are following the Old Testament type, His blood had to be presented before His Father before His sacrifice was accepted.
In John 20 we have the picture of Peter, John and Mary at the tomb of Christ. Both Peter and John looked in the tomb and saw the strips of linen, the “holy garments” if you will. Verse 6-7, both Peter and John saw the linen garments, “6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, 7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.” They both leave the tomb site and Mary shows up again. In verse 11-12, she sees two angels in the tomb, “11 But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre,12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.”
See the picture here? An angel on both ends of where Jesus’ dead body was placed along where the holy garments were, no doubt stained with His blood. This is the antitype of the Ark of the Covenant. Further, when Jesus called to Mary, she hangs onto Him and He says in verse 17, “Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.”
Jesus ascends to the Father to present Himself. Like the Old Testament high priest He brings the sacrifice of Himself directly in the presence of God. Later that same day we see Him with His disciples and He shows them the marks of the crucifixion. John 20:20. After 40 days with His disciples Jesus ascends back to heaven the second time. Remember that Aaron did something similar in the Tabernacle. First he went in for himself to be certain that God accepted his sacrifice then he went back the second time for the people.
This is the reason I keep Sunday as the day of rest, not alone because of our Lord’s resurrection, but this was the Day that God had promised the ancients in which He would grant forgiveness through the shedding of the blood of His Son. Only God could have given such a marvelous picture of the great Day of Atonement when His Son would appear before Him as One who had died and would become our Great High Priest!
God bless to everyone here!
I ‘ve found this site today, as I searched the name Wallace.
Some time ago in one SDA group someone posted the link of Revivalseminars. We accepted it with a great enthusiasm!
We use to talk about it and to spread to every (non)adventist we know.<
Until today. The seminar is no more available. What a sad story for us!!!
(I speak for a group of ex-Yu people)..I am very unhappy that I can't listen this fantastic seminar furthermore!!! But, I have to say, it is very sad moment, too, to hear and to know the facts that took this important lessons away from many people. It is very sad that such people as pastor Wallace develop theirs attitude to such extreme. But, it happens…..Nevertheless, it has nothing to do with Revivalseminar. If he had kept the balance which he talked in his own seminar it wouldn't be happen!!!!
I just want to encourage all of you, not to have suspicions regarding the Seminar. Enjoy it rather than to loose such a bless because of fear!!!
Let us remember pastor Wallace in his best!
Best regards from Serbia/Germany
That was a very nice presentation, and a very important topic. But not here or any place in scripture does it address a change in the day of Worship. In a court of law this would be considered at best circumstantial evidence not a fact.
This work of righteousness by faith is so very essential to our salvation that Satan working thru people, circumstances, and situations has thrown a cloak of darkness around this vital subject so aptly presented by Pastor Wallace. Pray for Pastor Wallace and all of our brothers and sisters in Christ. We all need the prayers of our brethren.
Watch the Glory to Glory series and learn the keys to success in this Christian warfare. God bless our church..
Why? From glory to glory is very scriptural, I don’t know much about steve Wallace but I know his serried from glory to glory and Train up a child are very good.Please listen to them before you comment.